@CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. :). Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. I cannot find any locally. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! They held up to move in with no major scratches. We will be going with something close to that. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). The correct answer should be "nothing at all". 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! ?-- and liked playing around with it. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. new and it will be white oak common # 1. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. It did not affect the color. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. @skru33 Thanks! Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. It must be sanded down and done again. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). 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The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. (Just read the dog drool threads.) Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. You should look it up. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. But that's just a quick guess. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. Mega turns yellow. Could my response be taken incorrectly? En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. I do love the natural color. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. Also what do you mean by toned oak? I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. Your floors are as important as your roof. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! If, you want a raw pale look. Absolutely love the matte finish. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? That's what I ended up doing. The coating should not come up. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. 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See the before and afters and why we chose this color. So far, this seems to be going well. Heres a close up. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). They were super rich! Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. They have little to no chemical resistance. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). 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If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. I personally love Quartzite. Try this color if you want a darker shade. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. They did a great job. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? Sigh. My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. Finished with three matte protective coats. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. Thanks for leaving this up. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). We are building next year and making decisions now. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. It could be as low as $2/sf. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. This was such a great informative thread. Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. How are you liking it so far? Skip the 'money saving'. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Really not read much about IntenSeal? I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. I have had the same inspiration kitchen photo for months. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. Choosing finish on white oak floor. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. I still hope to get my dream kitchen. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. The coating should not come up. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Please contact us if we can be of further help. Do you think there is any major issue with this? My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information It may come in other thicknesses too. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). I screwed that up a few times. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. Im glad we didnt go darker. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). They are dry and need one more day to cure. Please convince me not to settle with maple. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. Thank you. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. Photos would be helpful. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! They just don't get any DARKER over time. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. And like all things "time is money". It was light and made the room appear larger. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Thank you. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. Don't test just with sealer. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. Intense seal will cast yellowing. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. Don't disagree with you at all. Never to be heard from again. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Would love to see finished product! The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. Right? I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. Thank you. Get the third coat of sealer. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. Please leave this post up. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. They should be able to get the job done for you. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. Then the next day a coat of finish. Can you share the color? . Just seemed so right. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). Absolutely, I can see that. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? . WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. You only need an inch. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal.